It is a CISO's nature to worry. But do they spend too much time concerned about what they don't know, about the threat they cannot see and, maybe even, the threat that does not yet exist? Robert Bigman thinks so.

In episode 5 of the CISO Stories podcast series, Bigman, the former chief information security officer of the CIA, talks with Sam Curry, chief security officer at Cybereason, about how security leaders need to focus on the more apparent risks and invest in those areas specifically by setting up "layers of defense at your critical risk points." He and Curry also discuss how the cybersecurity landscape has changed over the years, the intimate relationship between criminal cyber gangs and nation-state sponsors in cultures outside the U.S., and why there needs to be more regulation over the industry.

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