Since Paul Hypki moved from the finance world (or, what he calls, "wealth and hellness") to healthcare, he's had to convince industry leaders of why they need to invest in information security — something that was a given in his previous environment. The message he's used to get them to buy in? "It's not a return on investment item — it's a risk reduction item."

In episode 7 of the CISO Stories podcast series, Hypki, CISO of Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota, talks with Todd Fitzgerald, vice president of cybersecurity strategy at Cybersecurity Collaborative, about the challenges he's faced in having to bridge the gap of understanding among healthcare leaders when it comes to information risk management. He also discusses the importance of using non-technical language when communicating with executives, why security professionals need to do a better job of quantifying risk and how organizations can reduce risk by educating and training their people.

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